April 26, 2024

Corner Office: Kathy Button Bell: Endurance on the Field, and at Work

Q. What were some important lessons you’ve learned through the years?

A. I learned a lot being a commodities trader. Trading teaches you a lot of lessons.  It’s like life, because things come and go really quickly, and really bad things and really great things happen. I learned you have to get over the bad things quickly because you have to stay present in the moment to make the next choice. 

That lesson of getting over things, especially as a woman in business, is super-helpful, so you don’t linger on things and you don’t lie in bed at night awake worrying about stuff.  You move on to things that you can make better. If you look at employees or bosses, the best ones have great energy and are good at applying it fast enough to solve problems. 

Q.  What about earlier in life — high school, college?  Were you in leadership roles there? 

A. I went to a high school that let you be a great leader.  I was in a terrific group of women.  There were only 19 girls in my class, and I got 15 varsity letters in sports.  One of my best friends and I were captains of the basketball team.  We won 33 consecutive games.  

Then I went to Princeton and played varsity field hockey. And I actually played lacrosse my freshman year.  I hadn’t played before but made the J.V. team.  I played varsity field hockey, and my second year there, the U.S. Olympic coach became our coach.  That taught me everything about myself, about how hard you can work at something, how you can die trying.  I would have done anything for that woman.  She inspired us to do stuff that was impossible. 

Q. And looking back, what was it about her leadership style?   

A. She just knew how to inspire you to do more.  The thing she always tried to teach me to do is not say I’m sorry.  I was so painfully polite, and if I missed a pass or something I’d apologize.  She said, “You need to get over that.”  She was kind and tough, which are maybe the two best things that a boss could be. 

I think everybody benefits from having played sports.  It makes you a good sharer, for one thing, in lots of ways.  And it makes you more empathetic in general.  I love to see sports in a résumé.  A woman who works for me right now was a Harvard swimmer, and I can tell that every time I talk to her about something.  She’s an endurance athlete.  She’s tough in a pinch.  She will get it done.  And I respect that enormously. 

 It’s your middle that you depend on — the hard part of you, the tough part in the middle that goes: “Oh, I can stand up in that storm.  That’s O.K.”   

Q. Do you think people can get those qualities just as much from being in an orchestra, or in a dance troupe? 

 A. There’s something about how hard sports are physically that’s helpful. I travel a lot internationally. I do think it’s an endurance sport.  I don’t know how you do that without the energy it takes to do the other things.  And you have to have energy so you can think smart when you’re tired.  Some people just lie down and just die when they’re tired.  I always say travel is a callus.  And you get better and better and better and better at it.  I think the travel thing is a big deal, and I think it separates people.     

Q. What were some other big influences on the way you lead and manage?

A. At Converse, I had a fabulous boss.  She solved problems the moment they happened.  I mean, you weren’t even finished with your sentence, and she was picking up the phone starting to solve it, because it just seems those little problems can all of a sudden balloon into something.  The faster you deal with them, the more you nip them in the bud.

 By the same token, you prioritize better as you get older, and you realize that time can also be your friend. Some things actually simply will go away, and you have to get smarter and smarter to know which ones are which.  I think I do a much better job of saying: “You know what?  Let that sit.” 

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Corner Office: Amy Gutmann: Welcoming the Wild Ideas of the Week

  

Q. What do you consider some of your most important leadership lessons?   

A. The biggest influences on me for leading preceded my ever even thinking of myself as a leader — particularly my father’s experience leaving Nazi Germany.  Because I would not even exist if it weren’t for his combination of courage and farsightedness.  He saw what was coming with Hitler and he took all of his family and left for India.  That took a lot of courage.  That is always something in the back of my mind.  And my mother was a child of the Depression and so she triumphed against all odds.

  To me, those two things are really important about leadership, to have courage and to be farsighted in your vision, not to be just reacting to the next small challenge.  It probably wouldn’t be as important as it now seems to me if that hadn’t been something that gets repeated over and over in my experience. 

Q. Were you in leadership roles as a teenager?

A. As a teenager, I loved math.  I loved solving puzzles and I was the captain of the math team and I did all the leadership things that you would do in a public high school. But my challenge in high school was also fitting in — it was a fairly homogenous community — because my father was an immigrant.  The challenge of leadership is precisely the opposite.  It’s not to fit in.  It’s to have combined passion with purpose, and the most inspiring and successful leaders, I think, don’t fit in. 

Q. So how did you square that over time? 

A. I was the first person in my high school to go to Radcliffe.  But, interestingly, when I got there I realized that fitting in was no longer conforming.  It was having bold ideas and taking risks, smart risks and branching out beyond one’s comfort zone. And when I got to college, all of a sudden I realized that I was much more social than I ever thought, and that I really liked bringing people together to do things.   

Q. Besides your parents, who were big influences for you?

A. Every excellent teacher I’ve ever had has had a really strong influence on me, beginning with my eighth-grade math teacher who made math exciting.  I loved math anyway, but I saw him motivating kids who didn’t love math. And so I learned what Emerson said: “Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.”  Besides enthusiasm, I would add hard, smart work.

Q. How would you describe your leadership style today? 

A. I love challenges and I’m enthusiastic about taking them on with a team, and my team knows that I like good ideas even when I disagree with them, that I’m hard-driving but also reward everybody on the team who combines passion, smarts and hard work.

  I’ve also written a lot about the importance of deliberation, and we practice it. We bring everybody to the table and I like to say, in any given week, “this is my wild idea for the week.” We don’t execute more than half of them, but those ideas that we put into practice, everybody was at the table and I think gets the same kind of excitement and satisfaction that I get out of it. 

 What I’ve learned over time is that while you’re driving all of your priorities forward, it’s really important to get feedback and to be open to the wild and crazy ideas, even if you’re not going to pursue but a fraction of them.  And that probably makes a lot of sense for a university because we are all about ideas. If we’re not open to them, if I’m not open to them, who is going to be? 

Q. So you encourage others to share wild ideas? 

A. I encourage other people to do it and we’re not shy about shooting them down. If it’s intended to be wild and crazy, most of them are going to be shot down.  But the ones that survive, we all rally behind.  And, yes, I definitely expect other people to outdo me. I think people on my team recognize that I am very straightforward.

When I believe that something is absolutely right and we have to do it, I don’t spend a lot of time deliberating about it.  I just say, “We’ve got a problem here and we’ve got to solve it and tell me how to do it.” When I have a wild and crazy idea, I want them to know that I have no idea whether we can run with it, so tell me what you think and be as straightforward as I am about it. 

Q. And do you schedule time for brainstorming? 

A. I have a weekly meeting with the inglorious title, discussion group, which has no agenda other than to bring ideas to the table.

Q. How would you say your leadership style has evolved?

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