December 23, 2024

Bucks Blog: The Right and Wrong Way to Buy Girl Scout Cookies

Pilar Ruiz chaperones her daughter Mary on most of her cookie-selling expeditions but does not sell cookies on her behalf.Chris Hinkle for The New York Times Pilar Ruiz chaperones her daughter Mary on most of her cookie-selling expeditions but does not sell cookies on her behalf.

In this weekend’s Your Money column, I told the story of Mary Ruiz, who sold 5,007 boxes of Girl Scout cookies last year as a 9-year-old, more than nearly any girl in the United States.

When you sell that many cookies, there are bound to be questions. Some parents in Tucson questioned whether her mother, Pilar, was pushing her too hard. Pilar and Mary Ruiz said this was not the case.

Meanwhile, several readers posted comments and sent me e-mails wanting to know how many cookies Pilar Ruiz sold herself. After all, they said, parents bring order forms to their offices all of the time and sell lots of cookies there without any assistance from their daughters.

But Ms. Ruiz said she did not sell cookies on behalf of her daughter, though she did bring her daughter to the American Airlines call center where she worked before she began working from home. And if she had sold cookies on her daughter’s behalf, it would have been against the Girl Scout rules, something that will probably come as a big surprise to all of the parents who have been selling cookies themselves for years and all of the buyers who have happily bought from them.

“We know that this happens, and we don’t approve,” said Amanda Hamaker, manager of product sales for Girl Scouts of the USA. “We actively discourage the activity, but it’s not something we can police. I don’t get phone calls in the middle of the day saying, ‘I work for so-and-so corporation, and there’s an unsanctioned order card on the break room table and what are you going to do about it?’”

So what’s a conscientious buyer to do if the parents don’t know the rules or openly defy them?

Ms. Hamaker suggests gently telling the parent that you’ll happily buy if you get a call from the girl herself. I told her I feared that in this day and age, people might wonder if potential buyers were a bit creepy if they made requests like that, but she countered that if colleagues were selling at the office, then presumably they knew your intentions were pure.

When you do get the scout herself on the phone, ask about her goals and what her troop hopes to do with its share of the money. “Make a connection with the girl,” Ms. Hamaker said. “That’s how she’s going to learn.”

How have you handled such situations?

Article source: http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/the-right-and-wrong-way-to-buy-girl-scout-cookies/?partner=rss&emc=rss

Bucks Blog: Suze Orman Takes to O Magazine to Promote Her New Card

A few weeks ago, I wrote about Suze Orman’s entrance into the prepaid debit card business with something called the Approved Card. In that piece, I asked her whether she thought the viewers of her CNBC show would be troubled by her making money off their everyday transactions.

O, the Oprah Magazine

Would they trust her advice, given that she was building a product to compete with the banks and credit cards that she often criticizes?

She said that she was extremely proud of the Approved Card and promised never to talk about it on the show.

So imagine my surprise upon encountering the February issue of O, The Oprah Magazine, to find not one but two mentions of the Approved Card in columns written by Ms. Orman herself.

The first mention comes in response to a question that appears to come from a reader who is trying to help her son establish a credit history. (This mention does not yet appear to be online.) Ms. Orman spends more than half her answer discussing the Approved Card, even though it will be years before it can help people establish credit, if it ever does.

The second mention comes in a sidebar that might as well have been an advertorial and is currently featured on the magazine’s home page on the Web. Called “You Are Approved to Save Money,” it lists the features of the card that Ms. Orman is most excited about.

So how does this all square with Ms. Orman’s promise not to promote the card on air?

“I did tell you that I was not going to talk about the card on my CNBC show. I will respect the editorial rules of CNBC,” Ms. Orman wrote in an e-mail to me Monday afternoon.

“But of course I am going to talk about this card anywhere and everywhere I can! Because unless people get it and USE IT, then my mission of changing credit scoring in this country cannot be accomplished. You seem to suggest it is unethical to talk about it. Well my friend, I think it would be unethical NOT to talk about it. This credit system in this country has got to change. And I am an evangelist for change.”

As for O, The Oprah Magazine, I tried to get a handle on the editorial rules it has about this sort of thing. The editor is out of town and unreachable for the moment, so a magazine spokeswoman sent me the following via e-mail:

“Suze Orman has been a columnist for more than a decade, offering solid personal finance advice in our pages. Over the years, we’ve featured her books and other products that she feels can help our readers better manage their financial lives. As with all of our columnists, she makes recommendations, and it is up to readers whether or not to follow them.”

But an editor’s job is to provide context, to make sure writers offer real and complete solutions. At Oprah’s magazine, however, they allowed Ms. Orman to go on at length about her product even though it doesn’t solve the reader’s problem.

Then again, why would she mention an obvious solution that happens to be a competing product, like a secured credit card?  She’s in the business now of pushing her product and trying to change the way credit scoring works. It would have been nice if someone at Oprah had recognized that.

Article source: http://feeds.nytimes.com/click.phdo?i=358352254d5bc56e7763b30e5c070633