November 14, 2024

Staying Alive: Meet the Sales Consultant

Staying Alive

The struggles of a business trying to survive.

Editor’s note: Paul Downs is writing this week about his decision to hire a sales consultant. The series started with this post.

Sam Saxton had hired a consultant to help him revamp his sales operation shortly after acquiring his company. Unlike me, Mr. Saxton had not spent years selling a product that he had designed himself. He did no sales at all, and he had never been directly involved with selling. And the sales staff that he inherited when he bought his company was not performing well. So he brought in a consultant, Bob Waks, to give them a tune-up.

Mr. Saxton is a courageous guy. When he needed sales help, he just searched online for  “sales consultant” and called a couple of the companies that came up in the results. After interviewing a number of candidates, he chose Mr. Waks. By the time my problem came around, Mr. Saxton had been working with Mr. Waks for more than a year and had experienced a striking increase in sales volume. He told me that I should get some help with selling and that Mr. Waks was the guy to call.

Being told that my selling methods needed improvement was a blow to my pride. I had been closing deals for 24 years, and I thought I had a pretty good handle on how it should be done. I also thought I had the right attitude about my sales efforts: passion for my people and our work and pride in our beautiful proposals. Asking for outside help was an admission that maybe I wasn’t as good a salesman as I had thought and that maybe our process wasn’t so great either. But by the end of May 2012, with our sales lagging far behind target and our backlog disappearing, I called Mr. Waks.

Our first meeting was a little disconcerting. Mr. Waks came over to my shop and, like all visitors, he was given the tour: busy workshop, cool machines, highest quality woodwork being produced. My usual guest is a potential buyer, and a little walkabout puts them in the mood to place an order. But Mr. Waks was giving out a different vibe.

He wasn’t blown away by what he had seen, because that wasn’t what he had come to see. He was intent on signing me up. We ended up chatting in my office, and, to be frank, he came on a little strong. There was just the slightest whiff of snake oil in the room. I wasn’t prepared for a sales professional unleashing his whole skill set on me. Through all of the years I had been selling, my main method had been to let my product speak for itself. My approach was to tell the story of how we designed and built work. A certain type of buyer wants what we make, and that’s whom we try to sell to.

Mr. Waks had a different approach. He had a strong idea of what was common to every sale, in every business: the relationship between buyer and seller. He had a very distinct point of view as to what happens between the two. His pitch was that we needed to understand selling, pure selling, first. When we had received that training, then we could adapt those ideas to our particular product and sales methods.

I had never thought about selling that way. Frankly, I had never felt that I needed to think about the pure art of selling, separate from our product. The method I had developed, using our design and engineering skills to make a beautiful proposal, was a direct extension of the way we make furniture. The proposals were a little bit of craftsmanship that we gave away for free. Usually it worked, but my recent failures were fresh in my mind. In those cases something more had been required. Mr. Waks was promising to teach us a strategy that would help us understand what we needed to do beyond just writing good proposals.

His pitch was convincing, and his ideas made a lot of sense. But there is always something a little suspect about a pure sales animal. I wanted to believe in what I had heard, but on the other hand I was aware that I was getting the full treatment from an ice-to-eskimos kind of guy. And his services weren’t going to be cheap. He recommended a three-part contract: first, evaluation of myself and my sales staff and our methods. Then a 10-week training course in the Sandler Method of selling for myself and my staff. And throughout that, and continuing for a year, monthly consults. One meeting would be one-one-one with me, and the other with me and my three salespeople. All of that would cost me $37,000. It would be $8,000 to start, the rest spread out in 12 payments.

Mr. Saxton’s experience with Mr. Waks had been positive, so I pulled the trigger. I wanted some outside help. I have benefited greatly from getting some coaching on being a leader, courtesy of my Vistage group, and I also felt that I had little to lose. Our sales volume was dropping fast. I needed a fresh approach.

Thursday: The Brutal Truth: How I Scored as a Sales Manager.

Paul Downs founded Paul Downs Cabinetmakers in 1986. It is based outside Philadelphia.

Article source: http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/meet-the-sales-consultant/?partner=rss&emc=rss

You’re the Boss Blog: Getting Sales Representatives to Sell

She Owns It

Portraits of women entrepreneurs.

Deirdre LordEarl Wilson/The New York Times Deirdre Lord

During a previous She Owns It business group meeting, Beth Shaw, who owns YogaFit, said she realized she had to ramp up her sales efforts. Toward that end, she brought on a sales manager with a 60-day contract that is up in February. So far, results have been lackluster, leaving Ms. Shaw to wonder whether her expectations are realistic and whether she is offering the contractor the proper incentives to sell sponsorships of YogaFit’s conferences and its branded merchandise. She asked the group how quickly they expected new sales representatives to sell and what type of learning curve they expected.

“I used to create sales quotas, and then assume people were going to hit them immediately, which is totally unreasonable,” said Deirdre Lord, who owns the Megawatt Hour, a start-up in the energy industry. Now, she said, when forecasting — especially when working with new sales representatives — she builds in a three- to six-month period for them to get up to speed.

“Do you pay them a small base plus a large commission?” Ms. Shaw asked.

Ms. Lord replied that her two sales reps were paid only on commission. She added that it was important to set targets because salespeople are competitive and want to know what they must do to succeed. She said that should drive how you manage them.

Ms. Shaw asked Ms. Lord if she had trouble finding good sales people willing to work for commission only.

It’s a challenge, Ms. Lord replied. She said the sales reps she considered typically require $100,000 to $125,000 in total annual compensation. “You have to map that out for them — if you do X, Y and Z, that’s how you get to those numbers,” she said.

Depending on how successful her outside sales reps are, Ms. Lord said she would switch things up — ultimately giving them smaller commissions and larger base salaries.

This surprised Susan Parker, who owns Bari Jay, which manufactures bridesmaid and prom dresses. “When they’re more successful, you give them lower commission and a higher base?”

“Yes,” said Ms. Lord, who is also engaged in selling for her company, “because they like to have the security.”

Ms. Parker said, “But I feel like a good salesperson always wants commission because —”

“Of the unlimited upside,” Ms. Lord jumped in. But, she explained, “We’re competing for salespeople so we need to be able to offer them greater stability.”

Ms. Shaw said, “Throughout the years, I’ve had salespeople on and off, some more successful than others, some as employees, and some as independent contractors,” But the current arrangement, a 60-day contract with expectations, doesn’t seem to be working. She said that, in a month and a week on the job, her new sales manager hadn’t done much selling.

She said she gave the sales manager clear goals. “One is to sell, two is to do sales training with my staff, and three is to handle some inventory management,” Ms. Shaw said. “Inventory management hasn’t been handled, sales training started for a while and then stopped, and she hasn’t pulled any numbers.”

Ms. Shaw wondered whether it was time to admit defeat. After all, the sales manager has sold no YogaFit conference sponsorships, which range from $5,000 to $15,000 and offer her a 10 to 15 percent commission. “I’ve given her a tremendous amount of leads,” Ms. Shaw said. These include pro shops located in health and fitness clubs that offer YogaFit trainings. Maybe, she suggested, she should just have the sales manager finish out her contract by handling incoming customer service calls, with the hope that she might manage to sell something extra to the callers.

“What was her background?” asked Jessica Johnson, who owns Johnson Security Bureau.

“She supposedly sold cars,” said Ms. Shaw. And supposedly, YogaFit’s former chief operating officer checked references.

“I guess one question would be, How important is experience in your industry when you are looking at a sales professional?” Ms. Johnson said.

“I think you’re either a salesperson or you’re not,” Ms. Shaw said.

Ms. Parker agreed.

Ms. Johnson, who worked in pharmaceutical sales before taking control of her family business, described herself as a “recovering salesperson.” “I can sell anything,” she said.

Ms. Shaw agreed: “Me, too. My background is advertising sales.”

Still, Ms. Johnson said she knew of sales reps who thrived in one context but not in another. “Some people are more relationship-driven, some are more technical,” she said.

But what’s a reasonable amount of time to give a salesperson to get up to speed? Ms. Shaw asked.

“I think it takes a while, particularly in our industry, to establish relationships,” Ms. Lord said. Unless someone comes with a book of business, it takes time to generate leads. Still, she added, she would not expect zero progress after one month, and asked: “Is there any way you can track who she’s calling?”

“I still don’t have an adequate C.R.M.” — customer relations management system — “in place,” Ms. Shaw said.

“Do you give her checkpoints to meet, like ‘For this month I want you to have 100 new touches?’” Ms. Johnson asked.

“Not in terms of daily calls, I would hope she could figure that on her own,” Ms. Shaw said. She noted that the sales manager was receiving a “pretty generous base.” With hindsight, she thinks she probably should have paid her half of that and increased her commission.

What do you think?

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Article source: http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/25/getting-sales-representatives-to-sell/?partner=rss&emc=rss