May 15, 2025

Global Manager: Leading, With the Help of Humor

Chris Lewis is founder and chief executive of Lewis PR, a global communications agency with offices in 25 cities around the world.

Q. What do you remember about the first time you managed a team?

A. I was 18 and working as a young mechanic for a company called Kawasaki, and I was managing a motorcycle racing team on the weekend. It was my first job and I remember feeling quite inadequate. That job taught me a lot about the basics: looking after yourself, discipline, hard work, and the importance of loyalty.

Q. What lessons did you learn early on?

A. A leader has moral responsibility. Leadership is not a set of skills; it’s a moral issue about doing the right thing. Later on, I studied management, which is all about doing things right, but that’s not the same thing as leadership.

Q. So what makes a good leader?

A. Someone who seeks responsibility. The moral issue is a great one and I think that’s what differentiates smaller businesses from larger ones, because this responsibility is something that has to be taken, it’s not given. You have to feel that you have a contribution to make. It’s the same as being in politics.

In the business world, we’ve seen conscious wrongdoing. It’s no surprise an organization like Google has written at the heart of its motto, “Do no evil,” which rather presupposes that most others would do the opposite in business. Businesses used to serve their communities and I think we’re returning to that, especially in the West.

Also humor: if you don’t have a sense of humor when dealing with your team, you miss a very vital opportunity to transmit your values and culture. Humor is a deadly serious thing. It shows sense of timing, sense of appropriateness, and it shows a certain view of the world.

Q. How do you use humor as a leader?

A. I use it all the time. I think it’s the duty of leaders to be self-deprecating, and it’s their duty to ensure the environments they work in have a strong sense of humor because that releases stress. Humor fills the gaps between the experienced and the young. You don’t need to be knowledgeable or skilled to have a sense of humor and it’s something that is quite useful when you’re working across cultures because that’s often the only thing people have in common. Humor does travel quite well.

Q. Why do you think humor is so important in leadership?

A. In countries like Singapore and China there is a culture of deference to seniority and to authority, but as they do, they also often abrogate responsibilities, they don’t take control. And when you’re looking to challenge orthodoxy in the market, you need everybody to aspire to a level that may be above what they do. That means taking on risk — including the risk of failure, and if they fail, and there isn’t a sense of humor about it, they won’t get back up.

In my book, success is not destination, it’s an attitude. And that attitude is defined by trying and failing constantly.

Q. In Asian cultures isn’t there often a real fear of failure or losing face?

A. In the British culture as well. In Britain, if you fail, you’re a pariah, you’re cast out. Americans are a bit more accepting of failure. The majority of my staff here in Asia are young, aspirational women. If you destroy their confidence, you take away their skills sets and you stop them aspiring. That’s where the sense of humor comes in, you’ve got to teach them to laugh at their mistakes and to laugh at their failures, so they keep going.

Q. When was the last time you laughed at a mistake you made?

A. This morning, actually. I told a meeting how I had been trying to do this acquisition and how I had ignored all the financial tax advice on it, that the company was not compliant. I pressed ahead thinking we could find a way around it. And because I’m so stubborn and pig-headed it cost us £50,000 before the deal failed. The auditors had told me the deal would fail and I didn’t listen to the advice.

You tell others about your mistake publicly, and the more senior you are the better. If the feeling is that authority is always correct and infallible, no one takes risks because they don’t think it’s O.K. to fail.

In my view, if you’re not failing, you’re not trying hard enough.

Q. How do you think your management style has changed in the last 30 years?

Article source: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/business/global/leading-with-the-help-of-humor.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Corner Office: Guidewire’s Chief, on Embracing Adversity



Q. Tell me about the culture you’re trying to foster.

A. A little background about our origins as a company will help. Guidewire was founded in 2001, right after the tech crash and right after 9/11. It was a very contrarian time to start a company, so one of our earliest principles was that we have to embrace adversity. We have to embrace difficulty. We won’t be rewarded just for being insightful. We’re going to be rewarded for solving a difficult problem. And if it’s not difficult, it means that we’re not actually doing the right thing.

We wanted to create an enduring business with a very strong set of values. We chose integrity, rationality and collegiality. Integrity is: simply tell the truth. There’s such a temptation to exaggerate, because if you have enough time and wishful thinking, you can build anything. So we said first and foremost, tell the simple truth. There’s never any ambiguity. We’re either going to win honestly or we’re going to not win at all, and that’s the way it’s going to be.

No. 2 is rationality, which is to make decisions based on facts and logic. That seems so simple, and yet organizations really struggle to be rational. So every decision, to the maximum degree possible, will be informed by objective criteria, by facts and by logic. And that means that titles don’t matter, and gut instinct doesn’t matter. Even experience is of very limited value. The facts have to speak. That translates into one of our mantras, which is “no wishful thinking.”

The final one is collegiality, which means minimum hierarchy. We’re going to create a community of equal professionals. There are some kinds of businesses where it’s hard to do that, because you have to have people who do relatively low-level tasks and then people who just manage them. The beauty of the kind of software we build is that you can actually build a very equal and collegial community of professionals.

Q. How did you come up with those values?

A. There were six founders, which is pretty large for a founding group. We spent the first week just pondering these longer-term questions. We said we have to consecrate our principles in a document that we will refer to over and over. This will be our DNA and every new person who joins the company will read the document. We put a great deal of thought into this, thinking of it almost like a constitution that will guide our future actions.

Q. Let’s talk about hiring.

A. There’s nothing terribly radical about our hiring process. We focus a lot on references and we hire a lot by internal referral. But in the actual interview, the main thing is that we ask people questions that are deeply relevant to the task at hand. We don’t ask abstract brainteasers. We examine their ability to do the kind of engineering they’re going to do.

Q. And beyond the discussion about engineering, what questions would you ask?

A. I ask a lot of questions about motivation. In reviewing a person’s background, I care much more about what motivated the transitions in their career than the specific tasks they did. Why did you make the decision to go to this company at this point in time? Why did you leave after that? What brings you, at this moment, to be interested in working for us? If the answer is, “Guidewire seems like a great company, and I’d like to be part of it,” that’s not enough. What specific attributes of Guidewire interest you? There has to be a substantiated, thought-through explanation of how that connects to the candidate’s own motivations. There can be an economic component to that — that’s fine — but it has to be authentic. The biggest red flag for us is when we see multiple career transitions in a short period. There has to be an extraordinarily good explanation. We’re looking for people who want to be with us for a long time.

It’s also often a bad answer for me when people are trying to present every single career step as though it was this perfectly orchestrated narrative arc. That’s not the way life usually works.

Q. If you could ask somebody only a couple of questions in an interview, what would they be?

Article source: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/business/guidewires-chief-on-embracing-adversity.html?partner=rss&emc=rss